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No Cop, he wouldn't be happy. He's poor sad John. And poor sad John's a broken man. A broken man can't be happy.

Actually cop he was so broken that he re-made himself out of wood. Didn't make him a better actor though, just even more wooden.

When you're made of wood you don't get the breaks, you just get broken even more and you start fragmenting into splinters.

Poor sad John. And what with the girlfriend leaving; just imagine, so much pain that your heart shrivels up and turns into a dried out old prune. Poor sad John. Do keep posting. We're all doing our best to help you. Poor sad John.
 
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Apply that to everyone Mick? Or just to those you disagree with? I havn't made any personal insults..people maybe hurt by the truth, thats all...

And Jon you ve got me to a tee again. I used to be in emerdale and now look at me.....a teacher with all the other failed writers....You are a tremendous actor Jon...really involved in the part...it was a joke wasn't it?

You are really hurt aren't you Jon? Thats okay, it's the begining of accepting the truth..you know the truth...if there's nothing in what i say then why reply? Just pick the dummy off the floor, wash it a little and put it back in.

As for pennine? don't know what your point is?

Don't give up guys, just accept the truth and try and make something worthwhile to more than just your little group of back slappers...

Anyways off to see the chase lecture, should be informative.........
 

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Oh Dear....

Do the two "Jons" know each other really?..

It all happens at Pleased Sheep doesn't it?
 

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#46
That's it then...

gloves off at the Pennine maybe...no it's all good.

Strong opinions fighting eachother ain't too bad a thing really...converts can be made along with new allies..

What time are the Chris Moll lectures.....?
 

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Apply that to everyone Mick? Or just to those you disagree with? I havn't made any personal insults..people maybe hurt by the truth, thats all............
Yes that does apply to everyone. In the past people have been asked to tone it down with personal insults, and they have respected our wishes. To call someone delusional, believe it or not, is a personal insult. I'm sure you could get your point across without resorting to that. If I was a neutral reader of this I'd find it difficult take anything you say seriously because you always add a layer of bitterness to almost everything you write.

Did you even notice that I disagreed with Chase myself? I didn't resort to using his work against him to make my point as you did.

I'm actually not all that bothered by what you write, more I'm bothered that you are completely anonymous. If your views are so strong and your points are so valid then be man enough to stand by them.

On the other hand I've had two people complain about what you've written on here - none of whom we know offline - so we have to take it seriously as you are putting people off the site. Not because of your views, but how you make them. I wasn't going to share this but someone wrote through our 'contact us' link at the top... "I think I'll refrain from posting as I don't want to upset the loony."

By the way you missed Chase's lecture, it was Tuesday.
 
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okay mike,

but i stand by what ive said before. Anyone is deluded if they think that their film isn't working because there's no distribution. Okay? and they're also deluding themselves if enough time isn't spent getting through the shit in making it strong. remember i said before you can polish a turd but it's still a turd. and after all don't worry too much, it's only my opinion.

sorry if that's not happening for people. mild compared to the lies you get from the filmmakers up here and at the Pennine though

regards,

John
 

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I think you're being a bit unfair on Pennine and don't understand why that's of any relevance. All I can get from that is because I've helped to co-organize it and shot a little promo for them, you've leapt upon it like a tiger on a gazelle to in some way ruffle my feathers. No one else on here has anything to do with it. Actually Cop drove someone from the train station as a favour, I can't miss that out as he was a good man for that.

Chris Bernard has just been in and delivered an absolutely brilliant masterclass on television and short film, which also touched on his earlier feature film work. He was very entertaining and shared anecdotes. Most importantly he shared his experience of working in television, as well as conventions of television to young people who may take something from it. I think that's a good thing in the X Factor/Big Brother generation.

Getting Alex Cox over to Accrington to talk about his career and show his film is one of the proudest moments I'll have. Normally you would have to travel to a city for that kind of evening. And as ever he was a gentleman, very funny and I'm sure inspired a lot of people.

Going back to films... To be fair to you, you did add 'that is only my opinion' which is important. All opinions and reviews are subjective, some may be even constructive and create a better filmmaker (think Kevin Smith going from the bad reviews of Mallrats, to Chasing Amy which is absolutely superb and was raved about by critics). Believe me, I've had a few people who have disliked my film or simply gone... It's okay. Perhaps there are more but they haven't actually said it to my face. On a more positive note I've had some who think it's great. They've rated it far higher than myself who if you knew me, you'd know how humble I am about what we've done. Infact I think Jon Williams gets a bit pissed off with downplaying things.

Steve Balshaw who has no gripes with telling someone he doesn't like something really likes it. Steve really takes no prisoners. Alex Cox really liked it but disagreed with a few moments in the film. If he wanted to make me happy, he could have easily said... "Genius!" But he didn't, he gave constructive feedback because that's the kind of nurturing good natured person he is. Don't believe for one minute he, or Chris Bernard for that matter pulled any punches. And that's why when they say they like something I believe it, because they've told me when they haven't. I don't know if you have ever met Chris, but he can be quite cutting with remarks if he cares enough.

And that's why if someone doesn't like it, fair enough. It was a little film made for £3000 in our back yards. As Andrew MacDonald said about Shallow Grave... It's a film made for £1.2mil, not everyone's going to like it, some people downright hated it, but some people really liked it and that's what we were hoping for.

So those are my thoughts on our film. And as I said, and to be fair so have you, your opinions are subjective. To bring this back on topic, the facts are we did have a deal with a distributor, who had a deal with the UKFC, which would have got the film into 100+ cinemas. It didn't because the Digital Screen Network fell apart at the seams. Regardless of anything, that much is true and if that had happened, it would be far easier for me to pitch for a real budget for another film (as other filmmakers who have made grainy first features have, Peter Jackson for one). Foreign sales are another thing. If a film has a domestic theatrical run, no matter how small or short, it's easier to sell to other territories. We've actually been told this by distributors and sales agents. As it happens I've had to take it on the chin and keep the creativity going rather than dwell on what might have been.

Coppack says he's not interested in the politics of any of this, but I doubt he would be quite as dismissive if the same happens to Bar Stewards. I really hope Cop he doesn't have to go through that.

By the way, the only problem with this thread is that I would have put 'Promote Film Exhibition', not NW film exhibition.
 

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Also the Pennine Film Festival was based in a college, mainly for students. It's a shame you didn't make it down John its been good.

Michael said:
By the way, the only problem with this thread is that I would have put 'Promote Film Exhibition', not NW film exhibition.
It stands for Nowhere :)
 

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#52
Michael...

great post that mate - humbling and honest.

Stuff like that makes this a really good forum and site.

Good luck with the next project mate.
 
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I haven’t said anything about the Pennine. That’s Paranoia Mick.

Proudest moment? Give anyone a few quid and they'll do what you want.....

Don't give too much value to anyone’s opinion...Alex would hate to be held up as an expert on anything...and Chris is made up to be invited anywhere to talk.. Certainly don't give me too much credence...too much time has already been spent on quoting and replying to me. Surely better things to do...

If you really clarification of what my opinions mean (with shambolic, delusional etc then i'm happy to go into detail)...
 

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johnmoordon said:
Proudest moment? Give anyone a few quid and they'll do what you want.....
They did it for free

johnmoordon said:
too much time has already been spent on quoting and replying to me. Surely better things to do
Have you not got anything better to do than to call us dreamers?

Here....



Come on lets stop this bickering... lets be friends :)
 

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johnmoordon said:
Proudest moment? Give anyone a few quid and they'll do what you want.....
Alex Cox didn't ask for any payment :)

Cop said:
Also the Pennine Film Festival was based in a college, mainly for students.
That's not entirely true Cop. It is hosted at the college but it isn't mainly for students at all. Infact we've probably had more interest from non-students this year. At the AC night there were only 16 of our students in attendance for example. The rest of the crowd were made up of people from outside the college, out of town, AC fans and local people with an interest. Probably because our younger students won't appreciate who he is. Our degree students on the other hand attended, well 16 of them did.
 

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Today was the last day of the first Pennine Film Festival which was held in the Coppice Theatre at Accrington and Rossendale college's very impressive new campus. It has the makings of being an important East Lancs venue for both film and the performing arts.

The festival closed with a screening of "Looking for Lucky", presented by it's writer and co-producer, Bad Lad star, Joe O'Byrne. It was an enormously ambitious project and it's a fantastic achievement. It's one of the biggest-hearted films I've ever seen, and it's such an antidote to the cynicism and negativity that's gripped so much of our culture recently. And the fact that it was made on even less cash than Bad Lad is truly incredible. You are in for a treat.

You don't have to take my word for it as Lucky has already had an offer from a major international company - I can't say anymore as the deal isn't closed yet.

One last thing. I know Michael's a very modest person, but it needs to be said that he had a very large input - so credit where credits due. And all credit too to Steven Murphy for not only managing to bring in a lot of sponsorship, but for also being a superb master of ceremonies and for running some of the best Q&A sessions I've ever attended.

Jon
 

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#58
here here jon, i too attended today and would like to congratulate michael, stephen and everyone else involved, also a big up to joe for the film, i really enjoyed it and must say that every single performance in lucky was outstanding, very impressive considering the large cast!

lets hope jon's ideas of more festivals in our area come into fruition as it is a real positive step forward and inspires people to go out and make movies, not for money or fame but so that others can enjoy seeing work which has been labored over (in some cases for years)

another point worth mentioning about making films which is sometimes forgotten, it can be enormous fun, i spent a very cold and wet saturday stuck up a tower on a hill freezing my tits off with other like minded individuals and we all had a great time, if nothing else that in itself is worth the trouble.

:)
 

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#59
Michael and all...

Will Looking for Lucky be screening anywhere else soon?..Like to see that..

Glad the festival was a success...here's hpoing the same good will and appreciation that I hope was in abundance will be shared by future decision makers when looking for things to back in the future...unbroken and wild as they may be..

'tis the only way to force the new frontier...
 

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I'm not entirely sure about this, but I'm sure I heard from John Wojowski that he was trying to arrange a showing of Lucky at The Green Room in Manchester.
 
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