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Everyone gathered at my house. Whilst we waited for Jon and Roxanne to arrive we watched the opening scenes of my uncut DVD of Ichi the Killer. Both Joe and Birty extremely entertained by a bit of bloodletting Asia-style. Then Jon and Roxy arrived, followed by our music-man Simon Auster. And after a small amount of discussion with my Dad about playing the guitar, we were off on our way to Paul Gordons parents plush residence.
When we got there we quickly got down to watching the rough cut of our feature Diary of a Bad Lad. The opening credits started. I nervously fidgeted with my can of diet coke - given to me as a freebie by the rather charitable Paul Gordon. With regards to the screening, we laughed, we were moved, we were shocked - and after the hour and 57 minute duration everyone clapped. Birty instantly remarked that it was a "Big Confidence Booster." Joe was also very warm to it saying he couldn't find anything wrong with it and he was entertained from beginning to end. Roxanne said she felt quite proud to be involved and that it didn't feel like we'd been sat there for an hour and 57 minutes. As probably the least 'filmmaker' of our little audience, I was glad that Roxanne was there. It gave me an impression of what Joe Public might think. Then very quickly, and after a short smoke/toilet break, I was deluged with creative thoughts from almost everyone telling me where it could go next, and what the problems where. I remember thinking that I'd been a victim of the rough-cut perhaps being 'too' good, that everyone was looking at it like a finished cut! I was quite happy with this, and though a few of the comments I thought were a bit off the mark - and perhaps ideas for a different film - most of the comments put forward were very helpful.
Probably the three main comments that I have to juggle are that some of the scenes didn't feel as if they ended, making the film very pacey. I like having pacey scenes and agreed that perhaps some of the scenes were a casualty of this - BUT (and it was a big but) I feel that we can't sacrifice the nice pacing of it all. Though some scenes do need to end (they now just blend into the next one). And I really don't want to get rid of the bit with my gran though - for one she'd be really upset, and at the moment she's quite ill - and for another it adds a new dimension to what came before. It really makes it that bit more three dimensional - but I do think that the scene should come to an end, and I think I know what to do with it.
The other comment is that there's a bit of a problem with the voice-over on the 'drug smuggle' scenes. It's just not informative enough - meaning the scenes can easily be confused to a viewer who doesn't know the story. This is probably a common problem with all films, where you have been working on them for a long time - so you expect the audience to 'get it' like you do - but they don't because they haven't lived with it (or watched it) the same amount of times that you have. This is all curable with better written voice-over though. 80% of the voice-over at the moment is rough - recorded in one afternoon very quickly for editing purposes.
Then the last comment was Roxy's comment. She did say that she wasn't coming at it from any sort of filmmaking perspective and she 'really liked' the fast moving nature of it. Now earlier Joe and Jon were lobbying for the scenes to be a bit longer at the beginning and the end, so effectively being quite the opposite of Roxy's claims.
So my thoughts are that we really need to find a medium between the two. Attempt to keep the pace of it while adding a second or two onto the end of 'some' but not all the sequences - and a few also need to end.
But after the viewing I was very happy. The room was a very positive place to be in, and if there was any negativity it was just because everyone wanted it to be better than just 'brilliant'. And it certainly did generate some discussion on the feelings it evoked - which is amazing to say that everyone present has been with it for about 3 whole years! And I think it was a relief to everyone that the thing has actually come out pretty damn decent - even at the rough-cut stage. We had a couple of early screenings in Manchester early in 2002 where on the whole, people at the screenings (who we didn't know) were generally positive - but there was also those that really slated its shortcomings - it was way too long (which was the point at that stage) and it was shot very rough (which again was the point). I do think that a few of our team were more than a little disheartened by some of the flak its taken over the years - especially as it was some of the more unconstructive views on it circulating the public-domain. But now those feelings have been replaced by one that they've really taken part in something special.
Which I hope is a real two-fingers up to our detractors, and a big boost to those that have supported us (and who put there neck on the line at an early stage).
I now hope we can go on to do it justice and the project manages to find an audience.
On other things, this morning I woke up with a rather strange dark short film idea - well more than that, an entire script 'The Four Minute Itch'. I'd like to shoot this on film (it will only be about 4 minutes long, mostly silent with musical accompanyment). We can shoot non-sync and post-sync the small amount of dialogue - and get Simon to do foley work on it. We can use those recans in my parents garage at last, and either borrow my pal Dans Bolex and stick the stock on 100 foot reels or Paul can try and blag an ArriSR3 for a couple of days from one of the corporates he works on. The thing we'd need most is money for the telecine - and money for the effects. Hopefully Daz will work for expenses - and the cost of the materials for some blood and guts (yes, it's quite gorey). And it only involves 2 locations and 4 actors. Roxanne I've got in mind to play the main character (a girl who self-harms herself), I'd like James Foster (last seen in the other nights Ch4 drama Shameless - and also a star in Bad Lad) to play her boyfriend. I'd like Jonathan Williams to play the doctor, and Joe O' Byrne to play a Kilroy type character (but preferably in a grey wig!)
If anyone can help with this let us know. Four minutes - can be shot in a day or two - two locations - four actors - some gorey special effects. I can knock up a script very quickly, though at the moment I have the synopsis (which is pretty much fleshed out).
When we got there we quickly got down to watching the rough cut of our feature Diary of a Bad Lad. The opening credits started. I nervously fidgeted with my can of diet coke - given to me as a freebie by the rather charitable Paul Gordon. With regards to the screening, we laughed, we were moved, we were shocked - and after the hour and 57 minute duration everyone clapped. Birty instantly remarked that it was a "Big Confidence Booster." Joe was also very warm to it saying he couldn't find anything wrong with it and he was entertained from beginning to end. Roxanne said she felt quite proud to be involved and that it didn't feel like we'd been sat there for an hour and 57 minutes. As probably the least 'filmmaker' of our little audience, I was glad that Roxanne was there. It gave me an impression of what Joe Public might think. Then very quickly, and after a short smoke/toilet break, I was deluged with creative thoughts from almost everyone telling me where it could go next, and what the problems where. I remember thinking that I'd been a victim of the rough-cut perhaps being 'too' good, that everyone was looking at it like a finished cut! I was quite happy with this, and though a few of the comments I thought were a bit off the mark - and perhaps ideas for a different film - most of the comments put forward were very helpful.
Probably the three main comments that I have to juggle are that some of the scenes didn't feel as if they ended, making the film very pacey. I like having pacey scenes and agreed that perhaps some of the scenes were a casualty of this - BUT (and it was a big but) I feel that we can't sacrifice the nice pacing of it all. Though some scenes do need to end (they now just blend into the next one). And I really don't want to get rid of the bit with my gran though - for one she'd be really upset, and at the moment she's quite ill - and for another it adds a new dimension to what came before. It really makes it that bit more three dimensional - but I do think that the scene should come to an end, and I think I know what to do with it.
The other comment is that there's a bit of a problem with the voice-over on the 'drug smuggle' scenes. It's just not informative enough - meaning the scenes can easily be confused to a viewer who doesn't know the story. This is probably a common problem with all films, where you have been working on them for a long time - so you expect the audience to 'get it' like you do - but they don't because they haven't lived with it (or watched it) the same amount of times that you have. This is all curable with better written voice-over though. 80% of the voice-over at the moment is rough - recorded in one afternoon very quickly for editing purposes.
Then the last comment was Roxy's comment. She did say that she wasn't coming at it from any sort of filmmaking perspective and she 'really liked' the fast moving nature of it. Now earlier Joe and Jon were lobbying for the scenes to be a bit longer at the beginning and the end, so effectively being quite the opposite of Roxy's claims.
So my thoughts are that we really need to find a medium between the two. Attempt to keep the pace of it while adding a second or two onto the end of 'some' but not all the sequences - and a few also need to end.
But after the viewing I was very happy. The room was a very positive place to be in, and if there was any negativity it was just because everyone wanted it to be better than just 'brilliant'. And it certainly did generate some discussion on the feelings it evoked - which is amazing to say that everyone present has been with it for about 3 whole years! And I think it was a relief to everyone that the thing has actually come out pretty damn decent - even at the rough-cut stage. We had a couple of early screenings in Manchester early in 2002 where on the whole, people at the screenings (who we didn't know) were generally positive - but there was also those that really slated its shortcomings - it was way too long (which was the point at that stage) and it was shot very rough (which again was the point). I do think that a few of our team were more than a little disheartened by some of the flak its taken over the years - especially as it was some of the more unconstructive views on it circulating the public-domain. But now those feelings have been replaced by one that they've really taken part in something special.
Which I hope is a real two-fingers up to our detractors, and a big boost to those that have supported us (and who put there neck on the line at an early stage).
I now hope we can go on to do it justice and the project manages to find an audience.
On other things, this morning I woke up with a rather strange dark short film idea - well more than that, an entire script 'The Four Minute Itch'. I'd like to shoot this on film (it will only be about 4 minutes long, mostly silent with musical accompanyment). We can shoot non-sync and post-sync the small amount of dialogue - and get Simon to do foley work on it. We can use those recans in my parents garage at last, and either borrow my pal Dans Bolex and stick the stock on 100 foot reels or Paul can try and blag an ArriSR3 for a couple of days from one of the corporates he works on. The thing we'd need most is money for the telecine - and money for the effects. Hopefully Daz will work for expenses - and the cost of the materials for some blood and guts (yes, it's quite gorey). And it only involves 2 locations and 4 actors. Roxanne I've got in mind to play the main character (a girl who self-harms herself), I'd like James Foster (last seen in the other nights Ch4 drama Shameless - and also a star in Bad Lad) to play her boyfriend. I'd like Jonathan Williams to play the doctor, and Joe O' Byrne to play a Kilroy type character (but preferably in a grey wig!)
If anyone can help with this let us know. Four minutes - can be shot in a day or two - two locations - four actors - some gorey special effects. I can knock up a script very quickly, though at the moment I have the synopsis (which is pretty much fleshed out).